My last session of the day was a showcase of Notes & Domino on Linux. I've been running the Notes 8.5 Beta client on ubuntu for a while so the step by step install was old news, but the tools and tips on running the server on SLES 10 are certainly welcome.
Assuming we consolidate our Notes environment (whether tactically or strategically) having a supported build on Linux would make our Processing colleagues very happy that we weren't cluttering up the datacenter with lots of Windows servers, and we'd probably get deeper technical support from them on the Linux platform.
As you can run several domino partitions on a single linux box, it would probably be cheaper too!
As an aside, it was interesting to see the presenter using Virtual Box (a free product from Sun) to virtualise an XP operating system. It allows a 'seamless mode' similar to Citrix where the virtualised OS is hidden but the application window appears to be running natively on the Linux OS. Microsoft announced something similar that we blogged about from the MMS conference but I have my doubts that it will be free! I'll be having a play when I finally get back to the UK and undoubtedly Malc will now tell me that he's been using it for years, but I can think of some great innovation work around this functionality!
Sunday, January 18, 2009
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Hi Brian - if you check my Frontier post on F/OSS, it is listed there.I haven't used the most recent versions of VMware Workstation so my info may be a bit old, but VirtualBox is certainly comparable to, if not better than, VMware Workstation in the versions I have used (5.5 and prior).
As regards to MS stuff - Hyper V you pay $25 more per server but then get 4 free OS lics, and technically the stuff we saw at MMS is a benefit of SA and MDOP so free once you have bought those ;-)
As a team we do get all those tools free with our Technet + subscriptions so we can certainly play and compare with other offerings. Maybe some innovation work for Greg to take a look at?
My understanding from Teched is that the seaamless (Citrix style) integration can be done with the new versio of RDP. Requires 2008 server at the back end.
Certainly, I don't mind looking at Hyper-V, but I still have my doubts to be honest. Having a full Windows system providing the virtualisation layer is bound to introduce far more overhead on the the host than a thin Linux-style ESX host. The memory overhead for 3i is tiny, and I'm just not sure Microsoft could slim down Windows that much.
Remember there is the bare metal MS hypervisor now too ;-)
but yes I appreciate your point, I was thinking inno more from a what can we do with client perspective, not just server
Malc - I knew it! :-)
Guys - the VirtualBox solution I was thinking of wasn't a server based solution at all, but (Like the Kidaro/Enterprise Desktop Virtualisation) a VM running transparently on the local workstation.
The idea is to have an SDS virtual machine hiding in the background (with all the built-in security, app updates etc), but running on a non-Mars asset that the user can install whatever they want on (Contractors, anyone?)
I still haven't seen anyone find a solution for the keylogger risk in this setup but give it time...
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